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worldlymrb · Newbie Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 3 Career Advice: +0/-0

I was fired from my last job for not making quota the last 6 months, even though I was over quota the last 4 years.

But lately, I'm not even getting call backs for interviews. And those rare interviews I have had, I spend half the time explaining why I couldn't reach sales goals and why I was fired.

I'm getting desperate here folks... I know the reason nobody is hiring me is because I was fired from last job. I came across this site when I googled 'job references' http://careerexcuse.com I know it may wrong to misrepresent yourself on a resume, but is it legal? My unemployment is out and I saw a job that I really can do a good job, if , I'm given the chance.

Thanks guys.

Pauloz · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

worldlymrb

Short answer to your question is it's legal suicide to misrepresent yourself on any information you give to an employer. You could get a job and lose it, "on principle". You need better refs, and from the sound of it, your previous employer was one of those driven sales environments where reality is based on projections and OTEs, not facts. Suggest for future reference you say you were given unrealistic sales targets in the current environment. The economy's been down the gurgler for a year now. I'm surprised that even a sales manager didn't notice that.

You'll also need to put that work history behind you, and get something else more current on the CV.

Suggest:

Pick up one of those no frills sales jobs, even if it's only commission, so you've got a more current reference, to start with. It also gives some chance of making some money while you're at it. These things are tough, but they can deliver something, and they're usually more likely to hire than not, because of their staff turnover.

I don't normally recommend these jobs, quite the opposite, but you have to upgrade your CV and take that last job out of the equation. Even if it only pays peanuts, the minute it pays, it's a bona fide form of employment, and you won't have to spend time dealing with those phone calls like that. Another possibility is just picking up a retail job: You've done sales, and if you know the franchise method of payment, you know what's involved, but it is an out for references.

Had a look at Career Excuse, not crazy about anything that's set up to create possible problems downstream. If the employer just uses some basic common sense and checks other records, they can find information about your work history. It's not that easy to produce a bogus work record, if someone feels like checking. Even a name search can usually find something. You might also have to give them documentation which will contradict the info from Career Excuse.

When one person tells a lie, they know what they've said. When two people tell a lie, they have to guess what each other said. Too many holes. Another big problem, in your case, is that working in sales, you will have worked with quite a few people, and some of them will know where you used to work, particularly if you're going for local jobs. I'd give it a miss, and get the show on the road in just about any other way.

worldlymrb · Newbie Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 3 Career Advice: +0/-0

nice post.. I hate going weeks without even a phone call after sending out dozens of resumes. It gets frustrating.

C_Vaughan · Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject:

Being unemployed is miserable. Being employed by misrepresenting yourself is worse. Why? Well, perhaps because you could be fired if they find out. Or, perhaps it would be a constant worry that someone would discover your llies. In some areas, you could be committing a crime.

Is it worth it?

You might want to find other ways to make your resume stand out:

http://www.professional-resume-example.com/make-your-resume-stand-out.html

mrjohnson · Newbie Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 1 Career Advice: +0/-0

C_Vaughan / Pauloz,

I hope you guys are kidding. Suggesting that the guy should take the honest way is as dumb as giving a 700 billions bailout to crooks and hoping to see the money back.

The whole society is corrupt, from judges, to doctors, to HR managers. If the guy is not taking the fake references path, he will never get a job. And there is a good chance that 50 other people with bad references are out there looking for the same job.

The worst that can happen if you get caught, is that you will be fired. So what? there is still more than 80% chance that you wont be caught. Just be intelligent. Don't stay more than 1 year in this new job and look for another one in another company to move up using this new employer as references.

I don't know what your agendas are by spreading these bad advices, but it seems that you have no clue how the society is working. You are probably unemployed yourselves... You definitely need a reality check.

Pauloz · Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject:

johndale · New User Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 5 Career Advice: +0/-0

I think the situation requires a professional help though. It's quite frustrating for being dumped because of quota.

outstanding · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:13 am Post subject:

I think that use of such services is not the best way to get a job. Honestly, what happens if you do get the job and someone finds out. You get fired again ? Is that worth it?

If you were fired from your current job. Who is to say you need to tell the employer that. I wouldn't market it as getting fired. Your employer will have to verify that you worked there. You can decide how you market why you stopped working there.

Many large corporations have a "no reference" policy anyway so it is not unusual in the corporate world. It will only stand out if you make it stand out.

Best of luck.

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