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Blindsided-now begin the questions
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Blindsided-now begin the questions Reply with quote

Hellio,

FYI: United States, Illinois

I was recently terminated from my job. I worked there for about a year and things, near as I can tell, were going fairly well however I was called in to my supervisior's office and told I was being fired. They ended up citing three reasons and I am curious if in anyone's opinion any of these could end up being construed as misconduct enough to-assuming my employer challenges my claim-be denied unemployment insurance (I filed my claim on Tuesday, the day after I was fired).

-Did not submit daily productivity logs
-On May 20th me and another employee were told to submit logs of all work related things we did on that day. I submitted 3 on May 22nd-forgot to do so, not given any warnings to submit daily. From that point, I was given no warnings-or any indication whatsoever- to produce this sheet either verbally or in written form until I was actually terminated and then they surprised me saying this was to be done daily.

-Made accounting mistakes
-I'm not even an accountant. They knew this when they hired me but still foisted several advanced accounting activities upon me which I performed well with a few unfortunate human error exceptions- so there's nowhere to go with this one.

The third one is tricky. Basically my duties changed very rapidly around about November-December and I no longer had time to perform one of the duties that I had been doing since I started working there. Was never given an clear direction to continue the activity either orally or written. It was not found out until last week because of a state examination that the duty wasn't being performed despite me submitting a list of my duties to my supervisor in May which indicated that I wasn't doing this anymore (forgot to mention on my claim-should I call someone about that?). However apparently it was my duty and I was fired for it.

Also, I did sign a notice of termination saying basically that I was being fired because of this stuff but was told upon signing it that that didn't mean I agreed, just that I had gotten the notice. Can this come back to bite me?

I shouldn't worry too much about getting on unemployment since I should mainly worry about getting that next job and putting this behind me but I do feel that there is a chance that I may not have fully explained my case to either my supervisors of the unemployment office because of my shock and am wondering what I can do to voice these concerns.

Thanks for your time. Look forward to learning more from the forums.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Blindsided-now begin the questions Reply with quote

short version?

You're pretty well screwed simply because you're talking about one business being in bed with the other. And yes, you'll get all sorts of predictable advice about hiring "competent legal help" and all I can say is that such advice is all the proof you or I or the little green men on Mars need to establish once and forever that employers, and employment, in this country suck, big-time.

In your favor--and this is a big-thing here in Virginia--is that absence of any written warnings/reprimands. "At will" is one thing, but often in these matters, employment commissions still "prefer" to see that you were given some kind of a chance to "shape up" before being "shipped out".

Also, I did sign a notice of termination saying basically that I was being fired because of this stuff but was told upon signing it that that didn't mean I agreed, just that I had gotten the notice. Can this come back to bite me?

Oh, yes. "Everything you say, or sign, can and will be used against you" and you can bet the farm they'll deny with their dying breaths ever having told you it wasn't meant to suggest agreement on your part.

I shouldn't worry too much about getting on unemployment since I should mainly worry about getting that next job and putting this behind me

Agreed.

but I do feel that there is a chance that I may not have fully explained my case to either my supervisors of the unemployment office because of my shock and am wondering what I can do to voice these concerns.

Hell, look at it this way: If nothing else, you're succeeding in doing the one thing these pretentious, self-righteous peckerheads hate the most--consuming their "valuable" time. After all, you have all the time in the world, thanks to them. They still have that "wonderful organization" to run, don't they? Keep them away from it as much as possible...

You'll be fine, but you already know that....
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